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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:42 pm

Heya peeps! I've been tinkering on this for a while, but it kinda died off.
But now, seeing as we're getting real active with CW, I thought I'd revive it.
So, I present to you, a little sneak peek of what I hope will be our new clan logo!



My current ideas are to make the Lunar guard's half of the circle varying shades of blue, a là Luna.
I will also add Luna and Celestia's cutiemarks in the space above both guards, probably in some circle formation with half the circle for each cutiemark.
Before any concerns arise about resizing, I have checked it out at sizes of 32^2, 64^2 and 128^2, and it seems fine. However, I thought ahead of this, and my idea is that the contrast of both halves will make it recognisable enough, even if WG applies some terribad compressing.


PEOPLE, THIS ISN'T DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANT FOR NEW CLAN LOGO.
THIS IS FOR THIS THING I MADE.
KTHX.
ASSHOLES.


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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Terran_wrath on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:00 pm

Heresy!!!

Well, I am curious for the result. Though I rly like our current logo.
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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Twilight_Sparkle on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:10 pm

There is only one logo this clan needs:

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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Barnahadnagy on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:36 pm

Actually, I agree with Twilight.
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Post by Valkyrie on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:54 pm

Agreed. ^^
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Post by Ronineter on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:57 pm

Sounds like a good idea, I got a clanshield i made based on the kind of shield tank regiments use in real life for READ and READ2 on steam a while ago.

Maybe Luna and derpy can be removed from mine.

Add celestias coat color to the upper triangle as background and add lunas coat color to the bottom one.

We pick youre gaurds and put the solar gaurd on top and the lunar gaurd at the bottom triangle.

Then to finish it off we put celstias cutie mark on top and and lunas on top of the under triangle.



The tank at the underside maybe needs some better background color.

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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Gordon_Weedman on Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:47 pm

Excuse me! Pretty sure I made this thread for my own logo!
Get that crap outta here!
Go derail someone else's thread with your hurrdurrtwilightheadclanlogo thing.
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Post by Luna_Nos_Custodit on Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:08 pm

How about this, just need some resize
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Post by Grzyby on Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:10 pm

Dude, you want to get too much symbols and context on so small logo. Bad move.
I'd prefer something simple. Like moon surrounded with sunshine, the one in our banner. So simple, everyone recognizes it at once.

Edit: All of you actually.
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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:11 pm

Grzyby wrote:Dude, you want to get too much symbols and context on so small logo. Bad move.

I'd prefer something simple. Like moon surrounded with sunshine, the one in our banner. So simple, everyone recognizes it at once.

Edit: All of you actually.
Gordon_Weedman wrote:Before any concerns arise about resizing, I have checked it out at sizes of 32^2, 64^2 and 128^2, and it seems fine. However, I thought ahead of this, and my idea is that the contrast of both halves will make it recognisable enough, even if WG applies some terribad compressing.
DID YOU EVEN READ THE FIRST POST.
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Post by Grzyby on Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Yes, I did read the original post. I still hold my opinion on it... Alright, change it a bit - looks good in that size.
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Post by Twilight_Sparkle on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:02 pm

Gordon_Weedman wrote:Excuse me! Pretty sure I made this thread for my own logo!
Get that crap outta here!
Go derail someone else's thread with your hurrdurrtwilightheadclanlogo thing.
So if someone isn't praising your design, they are derailing and shouldn't write in here? Why did you even bother to make a thread if you don't want people to discuss its content?

The ponies in your logo are even smaller than our Luna, so I don't know how can you claim that visibility will be good. Also, I find your logo too serious and solemn, I believe something fun like Luna or Twidork is a better fit, but that's just my personal preference.
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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:44 pm

Twilight_Sparkle wrote:
Gordon_Weedman wrote:Excuse me! Pretty sure I made this thread for my own logo!
Get that crap outta here!
Go derail someone else's thread with your hurrdurrtwilightheadclanlogo thing.
So if someone isn't praising your design, they are derailing and shouldn't write in here? Why did you even bother to make a thread if you don't want people to discuss its content?

The ponies in your logo are even smaller than our Luna, so I don't know how can you claim that visibility will be good. Also, I find your logo too serious and solemn, I believe something fun like Luna or Twidork is a better fit, but that's just my personal preference.
Twilight, stop being an idiot. Please. stahp.
I made this thread for the purpose of constructive criticism and suggestions on my logo. Your post has neither of those and instead a giant Twilight head that takes all the attention, thus derailing the thread. Making me look like the bad guy is a real dickmove, thanks, gg.

Seriously, do you have ANY idea how fucking much it annoys me when I try to show people something I've worked hard on, and still am working hard on, and then someone swoops in and takes all the attention away? (doesn't help that the way it's done is incredibly annoying as well)
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Post by Twilight_Sparkle on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:31 pm

You brought up the topic of changing our clan logo - I think it's only fair to propose alternatives in that case. I'm not doing this to spite you, I genuinely believe that giant Twilight head would be a great, recognizable logo - and some people seem to agree with me. You don't notice that, but it is a certain form of indirect criticism - some of us think that we should have something fun for a logo.
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Post by Ronineter on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:33 pm

Well, i think removing the circle will improve it.

Making the back ground like a MLP shield will also make it like Armour. Real life army's also put their logos on some kind of shield like this.
http://www.hurencostablanca.com/RHPO/42nd_TKbat_WoT_logo_rand.png
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRq0ReMdAjmTVnsr4xi-N1oVNmfvBGh_Io5njXZgv57mV9-rAiO


Also removing the current helmets and replace them with tanker like hats will make it look like a Equestrian Armour division. Those helmets make them look like actual guards, while were no guards but a tank devision.

to make it Royal a little crown could be added.

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Post by Grzyby on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:51 pm

TL;DR: I genuinely like the fact you showed us work. I like your engagement. But its purpose is unfitting. I did not mean to extiguish your ehthusiasm. Keep working on it, discuss with us and we may come up with something better.

As for me ...Look. I knew back then you worked hard on this piece. You put true effort and skills you have in the creation. And I responded with my opinion whether I like it or not, maybe my post looks/feels rigid but in no way I had intention of making you interpret it as... Well I'll refrain from examples.

Point is, you said you hope to make it a clan logo - and I made my point according to this sentence. I say once again that it has too many details for that purpose, those details will make it look crappy when shrinked. I get now that I probably forgot to say gj on the work back then. I like it. Not a masterpiece like Monet prints but who cares, you let a bit of sunshine here - where we usually rabble about how to everything and what not, you let us see little bit of creation, and jou you must have had making this.

And yet we (or shall I speak for myself only) stay cold against it, someone spamming its own image everypony knows already. As for me, I'm uncertain if whatever rating I post on anything is important for someone who created something. Hell Tartarus, sometimes I'm not even confident my rating posts are good enough themselves. Like the time Ron showed picture of his OC. All I could do is point out the flaws. Not a very pleasant way if you ask me now. Given the thought of it, artists always want others to show them that they managed to please them, for example by commenting. I would feel that way too. I already know it from experience.

So, you want suggestions and criticism right? I said it already. Just don't get touched by it. If you let me (hah you don't really have a chance not to let me ;p) express again - I like it. It is not magnificent by any means. But seeing your material from wider perspective it really is. Do you know why? It is more than a picture. I see here some of your ambition and passion for it, that you're going to expand the idea - I see you playing with it, enjoying what you do - and that attitude you represent with it - that is the magnificency in it. Your little element of creativity.

Look at me now. I want to be an artist too. You wouldn't believe, nopony wouldn't. What I write here is from my heart - I want to draw good looking pictures, to create music, later to make even animations, maybe direct some short films. But I am nowhere. All I can do is paint, I know about the GIMP thingy. FL Studio. That's it. Another of my problems is being a perfectionist - I fear that whatever I create will not be good enough, that it will receive too much criticism from audience. Thanks to this demeanor I have never released anything. My sole creativity is oppressed by it, and the fear that the finished result will look different. Well I had one glimmer here but even I'm not proud if it anymore. I am not happy about my artistic side overall, yet I have one talent - I can sing. I am being said around that I sing very well. Even girls (girls are for singing gender wise) at my studies say they envy me for it. Would you ever believe it? When I remind myself last Christmas time, all my family had to get drunk to make themselves feel comfortable with singing XD But I am derailing the topic again.

Keep doing. I want too see where it goes. It does not have to be spectacular.
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Post by Twilight_Sparkle on Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:05 am

Grzyby wrote:(girls are for singing gender wise)
The way this sentence is written made me chuckle for some reason. But what I want to say is that it's blatantly untrue, women aren't better singers than men, why would you believe that?
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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:22 am

While I did say I hoped it could be our new clan logo, it is however not the subject of this thread. At all. This should be pretty clear right?
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Post by Grzyby on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:51 am

Twilight_Sparkle wrote:The way this sentence is written made me chuckle for some reason
Another of my meritorical mistakes. I should have said girls are considered by the norms of our culture to be better at singing for men :)Glad I see the trend changing.

Gordon - be patient then and say once again, what is clearly the subject of this thread?
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Post by Abaddon on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:06 am

Thread derailed and I didn't even post in it? Impossibru.
BTW I agree with Gzébé, although I read only the TL;DR
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Post by Twilight_Sparkle on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:19 am

Grzyby wrote:I should have said girls are considered by the norms of our culture to be better at singing for men Smile
I don't know which culture you live in, but in my culture, that was never the case. Go to the opera, then listen to mainstream radio - you'll see that both in high and low culture, singing males are perfectly normal, they are not considered worse nor better, merely different Smile
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Post by Grzyby on Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:14 pm

"that was never the case"

One of the most beautiful sentences in this context I have read in a long time.
Tolerance is beating the **** outta me.
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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Gordon_Weedman on Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:21 pm

Grzyby wrote:what is clearly the subject of this thread?
Constructive criticism and suggestions on the logo I'm working on.
Now lets get this shit back on track again.

WIP 2


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Post by Deldrin on Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:45 pm

Logo looks really cool, but is way too serious for READ imo.
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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Grzyby on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:33 pm

What program do you use to make these?
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Re: [WIP] (Hopefully) New clan logo.

Post by Gordon_Weedman on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Potatoshop CS3
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Post by Valkyrie on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:55 pm

Make the guards bigger, final logo is like 64x64 or smth.
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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:04 pm

Can't, they're already as big as possible while still fitting in the circle.
Also, this is the wip seen higher up on this page at various sizes:

64^2


32^2


16^2


Pretty recognisable no?
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Post by Grzyby on Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:40 pm

No :I  just no.
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Post by Gordon_Weedman on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:07 pm

Grzyby, it doesn't matter that we lose details when it is shrunken, because that would always happen, even if we have a tiny Luna or Twilight's face. And by recognisable, I didn't mean it in the sense that all the details were still visible, I meant recognisable in the sense that it's still pretty easy to see that it's that specific logo, just smaller.
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